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ThaMa Gebir
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Posted - 2006.06.27 21:48:00 -
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Hiya people.
I hope this is the right thread but anyway here goes;
One of the biggest problems I have is that people who have studied physics and have a (most probably) better grasp of the mechanics behind space craft propulsion than I do, claim that these craft (hereafter named ships) will just continually accellerate to the speed of light.
Now I believe that could very well be wrong.
My train of thought is this;
1, All ships need a form of propulsion to move it through this "space".
2, Ok so we have the propulsion but that means it would be "burned" as it is used.
3, There is a maximum rate of fuel to "burn" like XX millimeter material/sec
4, This fuel that we know of have a fastest rate of "burn" at the moment is explosives and tnt etc. This means that the space shuttle would NEVER reach the speed of light even if it had the fuel amount to do it.
Basically it is flawed. There is a "Max" speed that we humans can reach atm and that is of the fastest rockets we have now.
Disclaimer; This is only my own interpretation and do believe if we are talking about some kind of "drive" then it would be possible to get it up to light speed or above but thats not conventional understanding.
Yes before you say it I know it is only a game, I just like to immerse myself into the science behind it.
Discuss please.
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ThaMa Gebir
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Posted - 2006.06.27 23:39:00 -
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I wasn't asking a question or even stating a fact.
I was just trying to bring my point of view accross that nothing of our current understanding can reach and or exceed the speed of light.
Can I suggest you read the post again and try to understand my point.
Warp ok all well and good but so many ppl say eve isn't realistic because it "known" fact that anything could reach the speed of light in space, when (with my own understanding only that is) the reality is there is only so fast anything can be pushed up to short of infinite accelleration form a particle accellerator.
Now I know I am comparing eve to real life here but even applying eve physics to real life it still could never be.
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ThaMa Gebir
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Posted - 2006.07.01 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: ThaMa Gebir on 01/07/2006 09:51:02
NM. 
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ThaMa Gebir
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Posted - 2006.07.11 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: ThaMa Gebir on 11/07/2006 04:12:16
 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Skyran Nalo
And that's just the start of some of the crazy (and experimentlly verified) effects predicted by General Relativity.
Nah, that stuff is just basic Special Relativity. Middle school stuff 
General Relativity... much harder math, to say the least... 
Hang on a minute..... Special Relativity is easier to calculate than General Realativity???
Jebus this is gunna be fun.
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ThaMa Gebir
Gallente
Raddick Explorations
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.26 07:26:00 -
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Ok so I borked it up.
I wasn't thinking in the respect that the propellant (whatever that may be, be it pixie dust or using the nth dimension) can and will still accelerate you to any speed you like (within reason) as long as it is still moving at XXX speed out the back *RELATIVE TO YOU*. Heavily simplified explanation ftw.
Ok ignore me, please forget this post ever existed.
Thank you one and all.
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ThaMa Gebir
Gallente
Raddick Explorations
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.02 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Xianthar
Originally by: ThaMa Gebir
I wasn't asking a question or even stating a fact.
I was just trying to bring my point of view accross that nothing of our current understanding can reach and or exceed the speed of light.
Can I suggest you read the post again and try to understand my point.
Warp ok all well and good but so many ppl say eve isn't realistic because it "known" fact that anything could reach the speed of light in space, when (with my own understanding only that is) the reality is there is only so fast anything can be pushed up to short of infinite accelleration form a particle accellerator.
Now I know I am comparing eve to real life here but even applying eve physics to real life it still could never be.
if you arguing that ships should not be able to warp in eve because humans can not go faster than light then that is only half correct. there have been several particles shown to travel faster than light in recent decades. and i remember an expiriment that occured in a fiber optics lab a few weeks ago that showed light traveling backwards. we are far from understanding the limitations of speeds near the speed of light. alot of ensteins theorums have been shown as of late to not be iron clad, there is even debate of general relativity. also most theoretical "warp drives" operate by folding space and otherwise manipulating space so that the ship does not travel faster than light but the distance in travels is huge. think about puting two dots on a piece of paper, normally they are 6inches apart, now fold the paper in half and the dots are only milimeters apart. i'm no expert but i try to keep up with stuff :P
-xian
Aye I agree with that.
I also heard about that experiment with the light particles and apparently it was fully sucessful and proved that "time travel" was in fact possible, but the conditions were made precisely for that situation. Cool stuff.
I am not arguing that ships should not warp because I can see the science behind "folding" or "bending" space around the ship and love the idea, but the point I was trying to make was rendered moot by my own short sightedness. I was a nub and missed 1 small part to the entire theory. 
Space is not fluid, it has no "friction", thus it doesn't matter which fuel or type of propulsion one uses, you/me/ships or space hamsters will still accelerate to the speed of light given fuel and time to do so.
That was my only point and I buggered it up thinking I was a clever git.
/me crawls off to whimper in the corner for a while.
There will be no survivors now that i'm around - Xorus
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